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torkur

Ah, I can see what you mean, but if you read my triggers, it's like this:

--- blah blah blah (Displace OUT)---

Hence, they were normal, then had to change them all to RP. Just read the end.

torkur

Heh, my dwarf was the one with the wierd drunk lisp spellout triggers. They're that way for RP reasons for his guild and he's a tank. Sorry, but if I turn them off, you gonna guarantee people replace the spells? A lot of people don't glance. Personally, I use the spellout triggers as a way to know h...

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I said that to ya in jot only because you rescued Tokon at 1k hp with scales and the clerics were tanking a couple rounds, Lorgan. http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/smile.gif I've found as MT and secondary that small fights (1,2,3 mobs) most of the time it doesn't matter who tanks if the tank is decent an...

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Ah, doh.....would explain not seeing him recently.

torkur

Heh, Mikali isn't hard to remember.

Tell Matt he needs to get his butt back here, I haven't seen him on in quite a while.

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I agree with most of the above points, although instant kill/assassinate imho is not a warrior skill. >Headbutt would be nice to have looked at. As a dwarf, I can only headbutt buffalos out east of WD with a friend to save me when i ko myself. I haven't checked on what I can headbutt embodied/enlarg...

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You forgot two- 1) Invokers are too powerful. We can solo everything with no stone/healing, ruin every zone, ruin the mud, and should be removed/downgraded. Still, every other caster class is fine with their perks and having decent damage spells besides those perks. People want us removed so they'll...

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Actually, fireshield/coldshield absorbs some of the physical damage as well as dealing it back. Test it out sometime. It's not much, but if they hit you for 200 hp, they would've hit you for 250 or so without the shield on from my tests. That has saved my life on a couple occasions with my low-hp in...

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What everyone else said, plus this: Allow a group-leader only "beep" sound and/or flashing message to get those people who're afk in another window to pay attention to the mud again. I hate that when leading. http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/smile.gif ex: Torkur leader-group-says 'ATTENTION!' in flashing...

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Drache, try a vacation instead of quitting. You need it. Expect to die 2-3x per trip anywhere with an invoker. If you don't, it's a good day. http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/smile.gif Edit: Oh yea, 20% in 2-4 hours is easy in smoke plane. And I'm a lvl 49 invoker http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/smile.gif [T...

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Invokers do get a defensive spell. We get fire/coldshield 5th circle. If you use them versus don't use them, it makes a BIG difference. If they lasted more than 1.5-2 minutes it would be nice, though. Can't really ask for anything more to block physical damage, imho. Self blur would mean invokers wo...

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Invokers are balanced on the extreme of offense vs. defense. Changing them would have to add defense, but it'd ruin the point of having invokers at all. We'd end up just like another illusionist/elementalist class in between the extremes.

torkur

Perhaps your argument should go the other way and ask to have specializations added to the melee classes, Daz.

Downgrades in spells would only hurt the people with less eq...a small upgrade in melee damage wouldn't kill anyone as long as they don't become monks.

torkur

thank you

torkur

Cool, didn't know you could do some of that in here. Have to take a look and I guess I'm wrong.

Thanks, Cherzra.

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Hehe, I could care less if I die 10x in a zone as a warrior, it's my job and not what I meant by asking about them. I also didn't mean to imply all rangers don't rescue, some are quite good, but others still think ranger tanking is dumb and don't. You have to factor this in with what load (#mobs) th...

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Cherzra, maybe your rescue triggers are better than the ones I've seen/heard people using. I'm quite happy learning something new and you're a much better zoning warrior than I am, so please tell me what yours do differently. http://www.sojourn3.org/ubb/smile.gif Most I've seen on here and in action...

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I'm not going to follow the name calling tend, thanks. So if you have an invoker so high level you know them better than I do, who is she? There are some, but I doubt you're maedor, teppen, mplor, zoldren, jaznolg..... 1) I never said not to flee a fleeable fight, I said you're dumb to do it in 2nd ...

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Kifle, if you're casting you're going to get switched to in 2nd gatehouse. It's the warrior's job to rescue you, not for you to flee or you won't get off half your spells. There are reasons to not flee some fights and there are reasons to flee others, but if an invoker flees there, they're dumb and ...

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I'd suggest you play an invoker before you ask for them to be downgraded.

An invoker lasts <3 rounds in second gatehouse of jot without a good stoner,healer, and warriors. You can't cast 1 inferno in that time.

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The problem with this situation is jenera's an invoker and we get no defensive spells.

This would go into the enchanter's spell set if anyones, and we all know those "stinkin magi" are busy enough in big fights....or would you rather they disrupt spells and not stone your paladin instead?

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Personal preferences in memming aside, very good from the looks of it.

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< 224h/397H 286p/286P 104v/107V > < T: Ibas TC: few wounds E: chief EC: few wounds > c 'shadow magic' You miss the repair chief with your hit. The repair chief hits you hard. The repair chief hits you very hard. < 190h/397H 286p/286P 104v/107V > < T: Ibas TC: nasty wounds E: chief EC: few wounds > Y...

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Just ask an invoker. We have no spellup spells besides di and dm, so 9/10 of the time, we're as bored as you are or just chatting over gsay/tells. Personally, I keep 4 dm and 4 di memmed at all times because we never get low enough on offense to need magic missiles..... I normally just go down the l...

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Very nice guide, Cherzra.

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Holy crap, didn't think that many Wisconsinites played here....Hehe Just graduated from the UW at madison, WI and about 45 minutes south of it atm. Lol, scary......

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Didn't know they got 5 hp/lvl past 25. Cool, I wish I got that. I'm assuming if MH dwarves could be elementalists like they used to be conjies, they'd get 5hp/lvl then too.

Still, my point remains that duergar aren't supposed to balance versus the other good races, elves are.

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Minus making EM !well, Daz stated that perfectly. Dude.....I'm impressed.

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Imho, Elfgate waiting until 20 needs looking at like Malacar says. Most of the time, as a high level it means you have to relocate over and plevel your friends or just general noobs who start, just so they can enjoy the "mainstream" areas. CRs for those at level 20 really is annoying too because mos...

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Read it again, I said 3 hp/lvl for enchanters and invokers across the races, not for all classes across races. It's only 3 hp/lvl post 25 for enchanters and invokers, not all mages classes. Necros,illusionists and elementalists get 4 hp/lvl after 25 which could be where you're confusing things like ...

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After level 25, invokers and enchanters get 3 hp/level no matter what their race which makes less sense than elves racially having less hp. In both cases, such is life and game balance and I'm sure the staff have their reasons for it. With most people having 2-3x the hp in eq compared to their natur...

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Drache: "-100 is just that, so agi bonus is useless there as well (for mage maybe) since people say that's the cap." I take offense to the agility not mattering for a mage. It makes elves well worth the island to have another notch. In zone, high agility (93) has saved my invoker's butt at least 30 ...

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Actually, a few weeks ago my ship xp group was singled out for a tailored quest when we were all RPing for fun.....my alt was level 39 and the highest level PC there, with noone really "l33t" in it.....we all had a blast and were surprised even the nobodys of the mud get to enjoy the campaign. It is...

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I forget the toggle, but set how low your PSP's can go to something reasonably high. That way they won't take so long totally regenerate. You can always just start resinging when u stutter. Also, try grouping with a good warrior type as a tank and killing stuff the tank doesn't lose too many hp on w...

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It's more like a non-required class asking for the damage of a spell to match the difficulty of the long annoying quest.....It won't make people suddenly take us zoning places they don't now and it's not going to make or break any groups.....Fell Frost really doesn't factor in.

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Um, I realize invokers own area spells and cast them in big fights when appropriate. That falls in the "duh" category. We have inferno, cloud, thunderblast,chain for decent ones and some have swarm for a reason....it wasn't my question.... Every 3 months there's a new "meteor swarm sucks" thread on ...

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Gormikazer, Manscorps and muspelheim require having multiple invokers? You can't do them with just rangers and rogues? Will you spank the group if you use fell frost instead of swarm because you can't quick mem out a couple clouds? Seriously, I'd like to know......I've been told countless times that...

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Many goodie groups replace 'em all the time with other hitters, why is this wierd? A hitter is a hitter, as stated on this BBS..... (edit) Seriously, are there ANY places an invoker's area spells matter versus melee? I've been told of doing stuff like SF without invokers, crypts without, etc.....and...

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Hrm, when you replace my damage with a ranger, what do they do? Area arrows? It's been said many times on this BBS that invokers are just damage and not required for any groups, hence our area spells are not needed over another hitter who targets his damage, so I don't see the problem with target sp...

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If we're actually worried about the "speed" of casting, we'll use target spells like force missiles, sandblast, and fell frost. Considering we can be replaced by a rogue or ranger and still easily be able to do any fight here, the small difference in casting time really isn't that big of a deal. The...

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Bah just don't bother getting it. Lots on invokers I know don't have it and get by just fine. Not worth the items nor the time involved unless you're REALLY bored. Spend the time on inferno quest instead.

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All mage types are not really worth casting spells below level 5 (with the possible exception of chill touch on an invoker), just use your dagger and flee like mad. You can level once per 4-6 RL hours solo under level 11 if you're good at playing casters, every 8 hours or so per level solo after tha...

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Actually, another thing about wolfing is that you don't get to see what you gsay...you only get an "Ok." as a response, not the line.....just a little problem, but if you're mid zone and mid battle, it can be annoying not to know what you typed.

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Actually, think something did get messed up I think... I started a new alt and bash/ switch/ shieldpunch all seem to be WAY more effective than ever before, bash rates especially on some mobs seem nearly !fail...not to mention level 20 mobs dodge about as well as level 40 mobs do...... For someone n...

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Rangers have too many things going for them to suck as badly as you propose they do and really need self haste. 1)Tank. 2)Rescue. 3)Backup utility spells. 4)Dual wield. (Once dodge is tweeked) 5)Archery and damage/luring ability. 6)Surviving area spells better thanks to nature's blessing. 7)pwt when...

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Woot, buffalos are short enough..now that's a fun visual....headbutting with buffalos.

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Ok, My warrior alt hit level 40 tonight...I learned my headbutt skill...and after wandering around the WD area a little while, I must say I was laughing like crazy..... What can a dwarf headbutt? I was wandering around and I'm either too short or they're too small. I just want at least 1 little mob ...

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I hear ya man, was there until graduation.....

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I agree, it was a cool quest, a great group, and a bunch of fun.

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Actually, I think my dorf rescues better when I'm drunk as well as him.

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