Attention all Sojourners!
Attention all Sojourners!
Recently I have noticed a slew of threads about various and different subjects that invariably leads to the same arugment on every single thread. Who's right, who's smarter, which align is better, good or evil, etc etc etc...
Well, frankly I'm getting tired of reading nothing but a bunch of flames.
I will admit that in the begining I was right up there with the accusations and finger pointing, but, I came to realize that this BBS was not put up here to see how well we can slander one another.
This BBS is here to ask questions, bring up ideas, express concerns, or address the admins on bugs and ingame problems. This BBS was not designed for people to take pop shots at one another.
If a person asks a question on the BBS, many times that person is ostersized for their questions! Its going to make people NOT want to post honest questions if they feel that someone is going to make fun of them because they don't know something about the game.
If a person expresses a concern, that does not mean that their idea is wrong! There is no right or wrong in this mud! Everyone has their own identity and their own style of playing. Everyone eventually learns their own way around the mud. One person's way of doing a zone or leading a group can be completely different than anothers, that doens't mean that one or the other is right or wrong, they just have different styles. Why can't everyone except that. The people on Sojourn, in general, are smart people. If a person is leading a zone and doing a sucky job, more than likely that person will not be successfull in keeping a group together on the next time they lead a zone.
If a person is new to the mud and asks alot of questions, think of the very first time YOU ever logged onto a mud and put yourself in that newbie's shoes!
Face it, people are going to lie, steal, cheat, deceive and do whatever they can if they think they can get away with it. Its called life. This mud has always had its dishonest people, BUT it has also had its fair share of honest and dedicated players. People who play the mud dishonestly usually don't stick around for to long.
Sojourn is its on little Microcosmos. Its a society of very different people with one common interest, we all love to mud and we've chose Sojourn as our home.
I, for one, would like to see less flames on this BBS and more constructive comments that will HELP and IMPROVE our world. Lets stop wagging our fingers at everyone if they have a different idea than everyone else. Instead, look at it how they see it, then make an objective decision on how you are going to post your ideas.
I doubt my post will help anyone realize whats going on with our BBS, but maybe one person will think of what they are going to post in regards to someones accusations and not start a flame war for all to read. Trying to make themselves look like the hero, when in fact, in my opinion, a person who calls names is the real fool.
Kelsi
"Man has eyes, yet does not see. Man has ears, yet does not hear."
- King David
Well, frankly I'm getting tired of reading nothing but a bunch of flames.
I will admit that in the begining I was right up there with the accusations and finger pointing, but, I came to realize that this BBS was not put up here to see how well we can slander one another.
This BBS is here to ask questions, bring up ideas, express concerns, or address the admins on bugs and ingame problems. This BBS was not designed for people to take pop shots at one another.
If a person asks a question on the BBS, many times that person is ostersized for their questions! Its going to make people NOT want to post honest questions if they feel that someone is going to make fun of them because they don't know something about the game.
If a person expresses a concern, that does not mean that their idea is wrong! There is no right or wrong in this mud! Everyone has their own identity and their own style of playing. Everyone eventually learns their own way around the mud. One person's way of doing a zone or leading a group can be completely different than anothers, that doens't mean that one or the other is right or wrong, they just have different styles. Why can't everyone except that. The people on Sojourn, in general, are smart people. If a person is leading a zone and doing a sucky job, more than likely that person will not be successfull in keeping a group together on the next time they lead a zone.
If a person is new to the mud and asks alot of questions, think of the very first time YOU ever logged onto a mud and put yourself in that newbie's shoes!
Face it, people are going to lie, steal, cheat, deceive and do whatever they can if they think they can get away with it. Its called life. This mud has always had its dishonest people, BUT it has also had its fair share of honest and dedicated players. People who play the mud dishonestly usually don't stick around for to long.
Sojourn is its on little Microcosmos. Its a society of very different people with one common interest, we all love to mud and we've chose Sojourn as our home.
I, for one, would like to see less flames on this BBS and more constructive comments that will HELP and IMPROVE our world. Lets stop wagging our fingers at everyone if they have a different idea than everyone else. Instead, look at it how they see it, then make an objective decision on how you are going to post your ideas.
I doubt my post will help anyone realize whats going on with our BBS, but maybe one person will think of what they are going to post in regards to someones accusations and not start a flame war for all to read. Trying to make themselves look like the hero, when in fact, in my opinion, a person who calls names is the real fool.
Kelsi
"Man has eyes, yet does not see. Man has ears, yet does not hear."
- King David
I have to agree. I mentioned the same thing to Mask last night.
I'm as guilty as any, will try to refrain from flames in the future, and probably just email my ideas, thoughts, and feedback to the admins. It's less of a hassle.
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Malacar - French kissin midgets, and damn proud of it. Oh yeah... My comments can offend you now, I don't care anymore. Have a day.
I'm as guilty as any, will try to refrain from flames in the future, and probably just email my ideas, thoughts, and feedback to the admins. It's less of a hassle.
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Malacar - French kissin midgets, and damn proud of it. Oh yeah... My comments can offend you now, I don't care anymore. Have a day.
Well said Kelsiria.
You'll notice that, in the hope that near complete freedom of speech will help spur creativity, we haven't been deleting flames, even some directed at the staff.
It would certainly be a shame if we had to start killing threads full of flames, and a waste of at least one staff member's time.
Please try and keep things reasonable guys, and read Kelsiria's post a few times!
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<B>Shevarash -- Code Forger of Sojourn3
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You'll notice that, in the hope that near complete freedom of speech will help spur creativity, we haven't been deleting flames, even some directed at the staff.
It would certainly be a shame if we had to start killing threads full of flames, and a waste of at least one staff member's time.
Please try and keep things reasonable guys, and read Kelsiria's post a few times!
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<B>Shevarash -- Code Forger of Sojourn3
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dibble:
<B>can we have another category on the BBS?
... Useless Flames.....
they are fun to read for some of us
Dibble.</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree!
lot easier to stay awake at work if you can flame stuff!
Flame Board!!
I second that emotion
<B>can we have another category on the BBS?
... Useless Flames.....
they are fun to read for some of us
Dibble.</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree!
lot easier to stay awake at work if you can flame stuff!
Flame Board!!
I second that emotion
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Jaeron took plenty of beatings on the SOS2 BBS before this one came up. We had been flaming on that thing for almost a year before this BBS came up, and most of us are still here Jaeron even quit posting to the other BBS for a while, before he came back as a glutton for punishment Just ask him about the shovel comment. *duck*
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Well said, Gorkl!
Indeed.
There are several posts in the past few weeks about "flaming" and trying to justify it, and people don't seem to get it.
Flaming/abuse/telling ppl off should have no place in our fun rpg world.
Those that feel the need to, how about trying CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, and advice, and discussion, and hints.
I'm talking about serious ooc heated abuse here, of course. Not RP, nor fun joking discussion and pay-outs.
Fun is fun, and jokes are jokes
But Abuse is for the cell walls.
Let's hunt.
Mogr.
Indeed.
There are several posts in the past few weeks about "flaming" and trying to justify it, and people don't seem to get it.
Flaming/abuse/telling ppl off should have no place in our fun rpg world.
Those that feel the need to, how about trying CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, and advice, and discussion, and hints.
I'm talking about serious ooc heated abuse here, of course. Not RP, nor fun joking discussion and pay-outs.
Fun is fun, and jokes are jokes
But Abuse is for the cell walls.
Let's hunt.
Mogr.
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