Just a fyi to prevent this from happening to anyone else...
I found out that the code still does not allow an evil (human) necromancer to rejuvenate paladins and rangers. Although we are allowed to group together now on the good race side, we still cannot perform beneficial services for each other.
I talked to Kia about this and it's from a roleplay point of view that paladins and rangers cannot receive rejuvenation in this fashion.
Revenki
[This message has been edited by Revenki (edited 05-28-2001).]
aging and rejuvenating warning
That's flat out stupid.
Let's allow them to group together, and get all spells we want from them except one.
Right.
What's the point of letting them group together again?
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Malacar - French kissin midgets, and damn proud of it. Oh yeah... My comments can offend you now, I don't care anymore. Have a day.
Let's allow them to group together, and get all spells we want from them except one.
Right.
What's the point of letting them group together again?
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Malacar - French kissin midgets, and damn proud of it. Oh yeah... My comments can offend you now, I don't care anymore. Have a day.
FEH! (was getting tired of bleh)
Not really, I mean.. it's not vanity... it's just that it's really really hard to fight evil when your dentures keep falling out.
Sarvis
PS: In other words, a paladin would want to be younger so that he can live and do more good in the world. As opposed to dying of old age.
PPS: Of course there's not much precedent either way, since most adventurers on in Faerun die young. Fighting evil isn't conducive to a long life yous know.
Not really, I mean.. it's not vanity... it's just that it's really really hard to fight evil when your dentures keep falling out.
Sarvis
PS: In other words, a paladin would want to be younger so that he can live and do more good in the world. As opposed to dying of old age.
PPS: Of course there's not much precedent either way, since most adventurers on in Faerun die young. Fighting evil isn't conducive to a long life yous know.
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ShadowDrake
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Think about it...
First - a Paladin is the anti-thesis of evil. In no way would they associate with another evil character/person unless dire instances deemed necessary (let's say Tiamat decided to have a bonfire).
Second - In essence, a necromancer embraces the dark arts/"forbidden magic" of necromancy, which in itself is a thesis if evil (though in some cases the necro may be good, the art itself is still believed to be an evil art. What do most people think when they see someone animating a corpse? ("oh, he's just helping clean up the streets." Come on now...)
Third - A Paladin wouldn't normally ask for youth out of vanity (even though some are damn vain), especially from an evil. If they felt it was meant for them to have that youth to "smite the evil that roams Faerun," they would turn to their God/Goddess first. Remember, they come second in faith only to a true cleric. Meaning, they would follow the tenants of their faith to the death, else they aren't truly a believer in their God/Goddess anymore, or have fallen out of favor.
First - a Paladin is the anti-thesis of evil. In no way would they associate with another evil character/person unless dire instances deemed necessary (let's say Tiamat decided to have a bonfire).
Second - In essence, a necromancer embraces the dark arts/"forbidden magic" of necromancy, which in itself is a thesis if evil (though in some cases the necro may be good, the art itself is still believed to be an evil art. What do most people think when they see someone animating a corpse? ("oh, he's just helping clean up the streets." Come on now...)
Third - A Paladin wouldn't normally ask for youth out of vanity (even though some are damn vain), especially from an evil. If they felt it was meant for them to have that youth to "smite the evil that roams Faerun," they would turn to their God/Goddess first. Remember, they come second in faith only to a true cleric. Meaning, they would follow the tenants of their faith to the death, else they aren't truly a believer in their God/Goddess anymore, or have fallen out of favor.
The only logical story I can think of if something like this happens to let evil-humans group with paladin/rangers:
paladin says 'lets smite evil at the pirate ship'
anti says 'slaying that sounds cool to me'
paladin looks at anti.
*** CRITIC FAILURE on detect alignment ***
paladin says 'sounds good, follow me bro'
anti follows paladin
group created
*** they smite evil here but anti kept grinning ***
paladin gsay why are you always laughing bro?
anti gsay nothing bro, all is fine in the eye of our gods.
(why would he be laughing now?????)
paladin says 'lets smite evil at the pirate ship'
anti says 'slaying that sounds cool to me'
paladin looks at anti.
*** CRITIC FAILURE on detect alignment ***
paladin says 'sounds good, follow me bro'
anti follows paladin
group created
*** they smite evil here but anti kept grinning ***
paladin gsay why are you always laughing bro?
anti gsay nothing bro, all is fine in the eye of our gods.
(why would he be laughing now?????)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ShadowDrake:
<B>Think about it...
First - a Paladin is the anti-thesis of evil. In no way would they associate with another evil character/person unless dire instances deemed necessary (let's say Tiamat decided to have a bonfire).
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A Paladin wouldn't normally ask for youth out of vanity (even though some are damn vain), especially from an evil. If they felt it was meant for them to have that youth to "smite the evil that roams Faerun," they would turn to their God/Goddess first. Remember, they come second in faith only to a true cleric. Meaning, they would follow the tenants of their faith to the death, else they aren't truly a believer in their God/Goddess anymore, or have fallen out of favor.</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
on your first point: In theory this is correct.... but in theory only.
on your last point: what happens when they turn to thier gods or goddess' and they are told to use the means within thier grasp? i mean.. its not like they dont group with them on a daily basis.. its just another way to force only a few specific classes into RP when RP should not be forceable by code (with the only acception being good races vs. evil races in grouping restrictions).
bottom line - code that forces RP where none normally exists is not only stupid, but it should be changed.
Nitania RP extraordinaire.
<B>Think about it...
First - a Paladin is the anti-thesis of evil. In no way would they associate with another evil character/person unless dire instances deemed necessary (let's say Tiamat decided to have a bonfire).
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A Paladin wouldn't normally ask for youth out of vanity (even though some are damn vain), especially from an evil. If they felt it was meant for them to have that youth to "smite the evil that roams Faerun," they would turn to their God/Goddess first. Remember, they come second in faith only to a true cleric. Meaning, they would follow the tenants of their faith to the death, else they aren't truly a believer in their God/Goddess anymore, or have fallen out of favor.</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
on your first point: In theory this is correct.... but in theory only.
on your last point: what happens when they turn to thier gods or goddess' and they are told to use the means within thier grasp? i mean.. its not like they dont group with them on a daily basis.. its just another way to force only a few specific classes into RP when RP should not be forceable by code (with the only acception being good races vs. evil races in grouping restrictions).
bottom line - code that forces RP where none normally exists is not only stupid, but it should be changed.
Nitania RP extraordinaire.
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