Add illusionists to elves?

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Add illusionists to elves?

Postby Selias » Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:18 pm

I'm assuming that the argument against elves being illusionist is that they would be perm hide/sneak with cloak of elvenkind. Since camo was changed so that you can't move, this is no longer a valid reason to bar elves from being illusionists. Can I get some feedback on if the class will be added for them? Would appreciate yes/no as well as reasons why or why not.

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Postby Dalar » Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:22 pm

if you're going to add illu to the grey elf race can you at least increase the human int? getting tired of grey elves being the best at all casters
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Postby Llaaldara » Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:41 pm

No! :P

Wear more +max_int gear and give up some hps!

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If Greys able to be illusionists would be a dream come true! :mrgreen:

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Postby Snurgt » Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:47 pm

Halfling Illus > all
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Postby Zen » Tue Apr 22, 2003 11:11 pm

The fact that Grey's can't be illusionists is the only reason I don't have an illusie. It would be nice if grey's could be illusionists, but I don't think it really fits into the image of grey elves on sojourn.

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Postby Mitharx » Tue Apr 22, 2003 11:48 pm

First off, I do sacrafice hps for max_int. In fact, I sacrafice a ton of hps for em. It doesn't help all that much. I mean, what does human max_int notch at anyway? I feel like I gotta hit 140 just to get another second off my mem time.
As for elves become ills. I say let them do it. I would like an elf to be able to transform into something good looking, like a Dwarf! That is all.
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Postby Vahok » Wed Apr 23, 2003 10:43 pm

If any race should get illusionists, it be drow, not grey elves. Grey elves are foresty, nancing, berry eating, wine drinking tree huggers...illusionists seem to me have dark, evil type spells. Not really in the elves profile in my thinking....plus, you got elementalists already!
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Postby Selias » Thu Apr 24, 2003 2:33 am

Illusionists on this mud do have some pretty nefarious type spells, but also remember that elves can be neutral as well as good. Actually I see illusionist type spells to be more neutral oriented.

As for elves already having elementalists...

Mage Classes for Elves:
Enchanter
Invoker
Elementalist

Mage Classes for Gnomes:
Enchanter
Invoker
Elementalist
Illusionist

For all intensive purposes gnomes and elves are caster classes. True they can both be clerics, but human and dwarf are better choices for clerics. Elves do get druids, but at the same time a halfelf is a much better race for a druid.

Although, I do agree that drow should be able to be illusionists.
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Postby Dalar » Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:50 am

Llaaldara wrote:No! :P

Wear more +max_int gear and give up some hps!

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If Greys able to be illusionists would be a dream come true! :mrgreen:

GImmIE!!


if llaaldara plays goodie b/c of elf illu i'm all against it
It will be fixed in Toril 2.0.

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Postby Birile » Thu Apr 24, 2003 4:36 pm

I agree that Illusionists and Grey Elves don't quite go together. Yeah, Grey Elves can be neutral and yeah, there are the two or three evil Grey Elves on the mud but Illusionists seem a little too crafty for the goody-two-shoes Greys. As for drow, there's no reason why they shouldn't have Illusionists RP-wise (in my opinion). Oh, and yeah, wily halflings should get to be Illusionists too! *wink Snurgt*
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Postby Ashiwi » Thu Apr 24, 2003 4:52 pm

I'd love to have an elf illus, but for once I think I have to agree with Dartan.
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Postby Shevarash » Thu Apr 24, 2003 5:58 pm

Well...

The RP argument:

The innate magic possessed by elves (of all types) prevents the from capably wielding illusionary magic.

The other argument:

A little variety is a good thing. Try a gnome out. :)
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Postby Llaaldara » Thu Apr 24, 2003 9:01 pm

Vahok wrote:If any race should get illusionists, it be drow, not grey elves. Grey elves are foresty, nancing, berry eating, wine drinking tree huggers...illusionists seem to me have dark, evil type spells. Not really in the elves profile in my thinking....plus, you got elementalists already!


I agree! :mrgreen: GImmIE!!! GImmIE NOW!!!! I command j00! :D
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Postby Kegor » Sat Apr 26, 2003 12:28 pm

Variety is no excuse for defying the guidlines set by D&D. In the case of drow elementalists and illusionists especially.
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Postby Zen » Sat Apr 26, 2003 12:45 pm

D&D guidelines aren't balanced for a long term game with 200-300 participants.

D&D guidlines also remove all restrictions on class, race and alignment, I don't see that happening soon. being an evil ranger would rock tho.

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Postby Selias » Tue Apr 29, 2003 6:49 am

Thanks for the feedback Shev

How about drow illus?

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