do we want chaos for jan 2nd?

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Do we want a 2nd chaos day?

Yes
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No
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Total votes: 66
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do we want chaos for jan 2nd?

Postby Gura » Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:46 am

just curious on people's opinions of this chaos.
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Postby Marforp » Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:35 am

Voting no for Jan 2nd, but enjoyed this go around.

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Postby Sesexe » Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:38 am

I thought chaos was pretty boring and wanted to actually play for real.

THEN I realized I could deck out all 5 ghasts with artifacts that auto-hasted them for me.

Then I was really happy messing around in Chaos mode. :)

I didn't realize it til 30 mins before it was over so.. yeah I'd like another on Jan 2. :)
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Postby Dalar » Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:59 am

No
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Re: do we want chaos for jan 2nd?

Postby Xisiqomelir » Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:03 am

Wait I had an even better idea, how about a Special Event? With umm, restrings!
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Postby Mitharx » Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:36 pm

Tia for Jan 2.
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Postby Imis9 » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:48 am

Had a fantastic time, but gonna go with Marf and Dalar on this.
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Postby Shar » Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:59 am

I enjoy doing things that are considered 'special' for everyone, but I'm going to have to vote no, too. The first go round was a major, major headache. Shevarash coded his brains out trying to fix someone elses lame code for hours and hours. Eilistraee and myself spent hours and hours helping players with fun things like artifacts and neat eq (among other things) and the planning/coordinating with the code spere nearly ate me alive :)

I vote no for Jan 2nd cuz ... well, I'm burned out on it. Mmmm player killing. Yeah, this is no thrill for me :) I'd be more likely to go hog wild over something like... 'Bring a Friend Night' or something! Let's do that instead. Jan 2nd! Bring a friend night and teach them how to mud! That would be cool.

If the players want it, we would just go all out like we normally do for chaos. Gear everywhere, pcorpses everywhere, maxed levels, trans, etc. etc. This makes it less fun for everyone, imo, but hey :) maybe next year we'll be able to make it the way the majority wants. No promises though!
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Postby Mitharx » Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:02 pm

I propose naked mudding in public night.
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Postby Waelos » Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:15 pm

Voted no. Chaos bores the hell out of me. If you want Chaos to be even remotely fun, you've got to recode rogues. downgrade them, make them balanced. And I'm pretty sure thats not going to happen. =P

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Postby Jegzed » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:26 am

Since the mud is not balanced at all between classes, chaos is only fun as a once a year novelty.
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Postby Nokie » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:13 pm

Waelos wrote:you've got to recode rogues. downgrade them, make them balanced.


In what way are rogues not balanced that you think they need to be downgraded?

    players vs. players?
    solo (vs mobs)?
    group (vs mobs)?
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Postby Cordan » Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:35 pm

Bah, you guys suck. I missed the first go around cuz of family. Now you not gonna have a second :(
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Postby Kasula » Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:53 pm

either make everyone a rogue... or no chaos...

I never thought sitting around naked would be soo boring!
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Postby Malia » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:12 am

As much as you sit at 1w, id figure you would be used to it by now.
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Postby Waelos » Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:01 am

Rogues are unbalanced:

PvP one on one

Solo vs Mobs (though this has little to do with Chaos)

Pvp Solo vs group.

C'mon Nokie, you were there as a rogue systematically backstabbed / looted most of our group during Chaos. One command, instant kill with a nearly perfect success rate! Awareness isn't even a defense against backstab. Stoneskin isn't a defense. Dragonscales isn't a defense. Anyway. . . should be pretty obvious why rogues are the most powerful pvp class.
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Postby Hyldryn » Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:02 am

fireshield is defense
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Postby Malia » Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:59 am

solo pvp yeah rogue might be unbalanced but shit, it should be unbalnaced they are a form of assassin, or as much of an assassin as you can be on this mud. For the 1 day a year or the times in arena (which rogues still die in arena) who really cares if they are unbalanced in this area.

solo vs mob unbalanced? i dont think so, there are tons of other classes that can solo better and faster. We have assassinate that can work, and poisons but any other class out there can with right potions and spells solo mobs too.. shrug.. it wasnt a rogue that sololed the Manscorpion King

rouges in groups? Wey you always boast about your damage.. you have more attacks normaly and the dice on your weapons are better then most rogues.. so you gonna outdamage us in melee. so i dont know what your whining about this time.
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Postby fotex » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:19 am

Hyldryn wrote:fireshield is defense


nokie can just glance fireshield.
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Postby old depok » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:05 pm

I play a rogue and Chaos was just annoying. While it was fun hunting other rogues a bit it got old quickly.

I vote no.
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Postby Sesexe » Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:03 pm

Cordan wrote:Bah, you guys suck. I missed the first go around cuz of family. Now you not gonna have a second :(


You didn't miss much. Honestly.

It wasn't so much that the rogues dominated, it was the fact that even they spammed tells to Eilistraee for restores so you couldn't kill them even when you'd say have 5 hasted-artifact-wielding-EQ-wearing-ghasts bashing them and issuing a severe beat-down.

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If gods are going to make restore triggers, maybe base it off the loggin channel whenever a mortal enters the game restore them THEN. So when you die or first enter the game you get a restore. Otherwise NO. And remove the ability to quit the game during chaos so you can't abuse it.
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Postby Eilistraee » Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:01 pm

Sorry, I had the restores on for what, 2 of 24 hours? It's a simple trigger designed to try and let people just go absolutely crazy. Though I _do_ have a couple of ideas for how to make the triggers less of a pkill abuse tool, for whenever we happen to do this again.

But I voted no for Jan 2nd as well.
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Postby mynazzaraxxsyn » Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:31 pm

Eilistraee wrote:I had the restores on for what, 2 of 24 hours?


The problem is that I think most people we on during that time.

Personally I had fun, but I can only ultrablast Xissix so many times before it becomes trivial. I would've liked to have been part of some of the raiding parties earlier in the day.
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Postby Kasula » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:10 pm

For real... if you want to pkill go to the arena!
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Postby Kasula » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:11 pm

and is there any way I can vote Hell NO!!!
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Postby Ashiwi » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:30 pm

What would be fun would be an organized highly RP form of bloodwars. You don't have to participate if you don't want to, but all those who opt to participate agree to follow the rules of the RP sphere and stay in character.
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Postby Sesexe » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:33 pm

Ashiwi wrote:What would be fun would be an organized highly RP form of bloodwars. You don't have to participate if you don't want to, but all those who opt to participate agree to follow the rules of the RP sphere and stay in character.


G'luck trying to keep folks in char in a pkill environment. :|


We have an arena.
We have guilds.
Wonder why no guild wars ever happen in the arena?

*scratch*
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Postby Ashiwi » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:36 pm

That would be sooooo much fun. It would be even more fun if the staff would get in on it like they did Fight Club.

Isn't there some kind of feature that keeps track of highest number of frags and deaths?
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Postby Sesexe » Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:44 pm

Yeah, Sservis. ;) *snicker*

We'd have to have some rules and such. Like
-No unguilded chars.
-Once you're dead you're out. If you re-enter the arena your guild forfeits the match.

Hrmm.. think of anything else?

It does sound like a lot of fun tho :)
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Postby Dalar » Wed Dec 31, 2003 7:47 am

Sesexe wrote:
Cordan wrote:Bah, you guys suck. I missed the first go around cuz of family. Now you not gonna have a second :(


You didn't miss much. Honestly.

It wasn't so much that the rogues dominated, it was the fact that even they spammed tells to Eilistraee for restores so you couldn't kill them even when you'd say have 5 hasted-artifact-wielding-EQ-wearing-ghasts bashing them and issuing a severe beat-down.

glance rogue
A rogue has some nasty wounds.
glance rogue
A rogue is in excellent condition.
glance rogue
A rogue has some nasty wounds.
glance rogue
A rogue has a few scratches.
glance rogue
A rogue attempts to escape to the east!
What rogue?
A rogue enters from the east.
You feel a strange sound as...

If gods are going to make restore triggers, maybe base it off the loggin channel whenever a mortal enters the game restore them THEN. So when you die or first enter the game you get a restore. Otherwise NO. And remove the ability to quit the game during chaos so you can't abuse it.

i killed aristan kiyen etc. multiple times as a lvl 50 warrior. you wer ejust doing it wrong
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Postby Hyldryn » Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:02 pm

Sesexe wrote:Yeah, Sservis. ;) *snicker*

We'd have to have some rules and such. Like
-No unguilded chars.
-Once you're dead you're out. If you re-enter the arena your guild forfeits the match.

Hrmm.. think of anything else?

It does sound like a lot of fun tho :)


My money is on the guild of mostly rogues!

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