"Your mount refuses to trample"

[Xisiqomelir]

How about it DOES trample instead?

[Delmair Aamoren]

How about it DOES trample instead?

Because knights have a code man. You don't just go trampling a downed opponent!

[Xisiqomelir]

How about it DOES trample instead?

Because knights have a code man. You don't just go trampling a downed opponent!

Well I guess that applies to Pallies, but Dires and Antis shouldn't be against a little crunching underfoot.

[Pril]

Dires I'm not sure about, but anti's are still pallies they still believe in a god and are knights, i don't see them doing this.

Pril

[selerial]

Dires I'm not sure about, but anti's are still pallies they still believe in a god and are knights, i don't see them doing this.

Pril

They also get the "cause X" spells and their innate drains your life to enhance theirs.. I'm having difficulty seeing where a little trampling doesn't fit in to this. ;+)

[Thilindel]

I certainly don't see why you can't trample, since when a mob's dying, you can decrapitate them the rest of the way :P

secondly, you bash as a paladin, then hit them when they're down. Are they saying the mount has a higher standard than the paladin?!

[Pril]

To swing a sword at a person who's on the ground gives them a chance to defend themselves, trampling the poor soul is just un-knightly.

Pril

[Thilindel]

but then a paladin shouldn't be able to finish off a mob who's incap'd

[Xisiqomelir]

Just 2x kick damage would be fine (even 1x).

Doesn't even need to stun.

[Vigis]

I'd just prefer not to see a horse become an offensive part of melee since they can't be attacked.

If Pril hits me, I can hit him back. If his horse tries to trample me, I'm not allowed to try chopping off one of its legs.

[Thracx V'staluz]

I'd just prefer not to see a horse become an offensive part of melee since they can't be attacked.

If Pril hits me, I can hit him back. If his horse tries to trample me, I'm not allowed to try chopping off one of its legs.

*laugh*

[Lilira]

but then a paladin shouldn't be able to finish off a mob who's incap'd

Sure you can. Its called putting them out of their misery. Its mercy!!!

Lil

[Thilindel]

Exactly. That was the point. Paladins are arrogant, self-righteous fanatics. If evil has caught their attention, they would do anything to bring it to justice, save poison possibly. Trampling would only aid the paladin in making a mockery of said evil.

Sticking with the logic, a paladin has the bash skill. He can use it to knock something prone, then hits it senseless... He strikes it when it is down. Now why can't the horse stomp the crap out of said downed mob? That's the standard I was speaking of earlier. The horse is bound to a higher standard in that it 'refuses' trample, yet the paladin, in doing his god's bidding, is just fine with striking something prone?

So morally, is it this? Horse > Paladin?
If that's true, this should be too...

Horse poo > paladin :P

[Pril]

Well the mount is granted to the paladin by his god so therefore since it comes from the paladin's god it only makes sense that it be holier than the paladin. And if you want to talk about who's greater, griffons have 2.5k hps :p

Pril

[Birile]

I'd just prefer not to see a horse become an offensive part of melee since they can't be attacked.

If Pril hits me, I can hit him back. If his horse tries to trample me, I'm not allowed to try chopping off one of its legs.

I dunno, in arena I always wind up hitting the horse, but maybe that's 'cause I'm short.

[Thilindel]

Well the mount is granted to the paladin by his god so therefore since it comes from the paladin's god it only makes sense that it be holier than the paladin. And if you want to talk about who's greater, griffons have 2.5k hps :p

Pril

Trouble is the paladin represents his god. The mount is just there to serve. I think trampling is more than fine, due to the fact there isn't a line of paladins waiting to log on. It's not like paladins are a big force on the mud, let alone overpowered. Seems almost fun for a paladin to believe 'You have crossed my god, now suffer beneath this mount's fecal stained horseshoes!'

[vallis]

The horse may have been bestowed upon you from whomever you follow, but you are that horses master.

A horse that refuses my order to trample my opponent should be punished.

[Llaaldara]

I guess all the horsemen in Return of the King were evil for trampling the orc hoards?

I guess every mounted calvary in history consisted of evil people because they'd trample foot soldiers/archers, and hit them with 10 foot long spears from atop a horse?

How unfair. Those evil bastards!

*eyeroll*

Whatever happened to "All is fair in love in war". Let the trampling commence!

[Kramel]

My guess is a mount won't trample because it doesn't want to trip

[vallis]

Horses are smart enough to step up and not trip over something.

When an opponent is knocked down is the perfect time to run over their face, in my opinion.

[Thilindel]

This is actually super annoying from an anti-paladin's standpoint. It fits the way of the AP. If that bastard horse think's he's too good to trample, yet growls at the mob in the same round, as most have seen, it's time to make some glue. Make horses trample pls!

[Xisiqomelir]

Bump + I wrote descripts to save some effort for the unfortunate imm who gets stuck with the implementation (sorry!).

You urge $MOUNTNAME ahead, trampling over $VICTIMNAME's prone form!

You are trampled underfoot as $RIDERNAME spurs $MOUNTNAME OVER you!

$RIDERNAME expertly drives $MOUNTNAME forward and tramples over $VICTIMNAME's fallen body!

[Latreg]

there should be no charge then, because someone might get trampled by mistake. You put blinders on a war horse and you could run it into a wall, let alone worry about it not wanting to step on someone.

Give orcs chariots!! how cool would that be?

[Ruxur]

i always thought that the reason charge was restricted due to mob poistion was because of the actual act of the charge. If a mount charged a reclined mob, would that not throw the rider off balance and forward?

[Drache]

Without sugar coating it, remove that damned floorbash a room full of mobs do if PC's can't charge while something's on the ground.

"Listen, GLUE, you'll f'g charge or you'll be turned to sticky tape, get it?!"

[Lilira]

Actually.. trained warhorses would have absolutely no problem charging a downed opponent.. even if its just to make sure they don't come from underneath and take them out. It would be part of the training.

If concerned about the whole balance issue, make it so there's a high chance you get tossed til you reach a certain skill level.

[Drache]

it just doesn't make sense period. You can shieldpunch a downed mob, which is charge. Why'd they code !charge but still can shieldpunch, kick, bash - albeit with lesser chance to hit but still

[Latreg]

it just doesn't make sense period. You can shieldpunch a downed mob, which is charge. Why'd they code !charge but still can shieldpunch, kick, bash - albeit with lesser chance to hit but still

if you where kneeling or sitting I bet I could do all those things ;)
Kick shouldn't matter the position of the mob

shieldpunch and bash I wouldn't think you could do if the mob is rcl.

[Ruxur]

lol charge isnt shieldpunch, they may have similar effects, but not the same thing at all.