Jaznolg wrote:Would you condsider allowing 2 character multi-play as a temporary 'bandage' for the current situation and disallow it again when 2.0 is implimented?
No, sorry. I explained why already in this thread so I'm not going to do it again.
Jaznolg wrote:Again, even as just a temporary bandages, little things of this nature add up to keeping players interested in new fixes to old issues until such time they are fully addressed with the new release.
Malvareth wrote:Shevarash wrote:I would be doing all of you a disservice if I sacrificed the ideals of this MUD to stop one person from leaving. If you read this thread it's pretty clear that most players do not agree with this idea. Are you suggesting that the responsible course of action is to change basic tenets of the MUD on a whim, to satisfy a few people that threaten to leave?
I think it's long, long overdue. You and everybody else can see the results of your stoically sticking to your ideals. I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, but I see it as nothing but the truth.
Corth wrote:Its a little bit dangerous to essentially say the current version of the mud is unsupported while not giving much of a definite time frame for when the new version will be released. Your telling people to buzz off until you say come back. But will they come back?
Its worth putting in just a little bit of time to remedy the situation of exp for non zonable chars. A band-aid until 2.0 comes out is all they need. I agree with Shev about multi, but I disagree that nothing can be done until 2.0 is released.
Birile wrote:First, I'd like to say that I think the idea of two-character multi is stupid and would just kill the MUD faster than Shevarash's hand-sitting.
Birile wrote:Something that Tasan said (and none of it was any more inflammatory than what Shevarash responded with) is exactly what I've said before, and so have several others: saying that an issue will be fixed in 2.0 is not fair and it's really just an excuse for not getting on an issue now. Look at how long 2.0 has taken so far, Shev. Then consider how much more time you will have to spend to finish it. And be realistic when you think about how long it'll take, because I can guarantee you had no idea it would take over two years and look where we are now. Now ask yourself if you really--really--think it's fair to ask all of us to continue to wait for you to finish 2.0. Hell, you can't even update the BBS like you've been promising for months.
Birile wrote:You are so damned lucky to have people like Marthammor and Eilistraee handling some issues, because otherwise absolutely nothing would have been done to change anything on this MUD in the last two years.
Birile wrote:There are a whole slew of problems that need fixing on this MUD--and there is no reason why you can't have someone working on fixing them while you work on 2.0.
Birile wrote:We're donkeys following after the ever-elusive carrot (2.0). That's simply cruel, and actually a little inhumane. I stand by what I said in another post: mentioning 2.0 was coming was one of the biggest mistakes ever. I simply find it astounding that it's only the players here would have the insight to see it's true.
Shevarash wrote:So, just to sum up:
1) The Forgers believe that allowing multiplay would be detrimental to the MUD, and thus it is not an option at this time.
2) There are other band-aid type adjustments that can be made to the current MUD, and I will solicit ideas for those on this board shortly.
Thank you for all for your feedback.
Shevarash wrote:That said, I know you mean well and I will try to take points as they were intended. I'd appreciate a little more civility in return.
Birile wrote:Tasan wrote:Birile was inflammatory.
Does that mean I was hot? Or simply on fire? Either way, thanks for the compliment. :D
Kifle wrote:Birile wrote:Tasan wrote:Birile was inflammatory.
Does that mean I was hot? Or simply on fire? Either way, thanks for the compliment. :D
I think it means that it burns when you urinate. I apologize for that.
Dalar wrote:Kifle wrote:Birile wrote:Tasan wrote:Birile was inflammatory.
Does that mean I was hot? Or simply on fire? Either way, thanks for the compliment. :D
I think it means that it burns when you urinate. I apologize for that.
burninate?
sotana wrote:I did it because it was fun in its own right and I loved (then and still do now) playing my class and seeing what I could do. I realize it's not for everyone but, for some folks, it is a very valuable part of their mud experience and worth noting and allowing the newbies to discover for themselves.
Malvareth wrote:Shevarash wrote:A MUD full of multiplay bots is not something I would want to play as a new player.
But you have no new players.
Malvareth wrote:sotana wrote:Let them discover the mud for themselves just like we all did!
Practically impossible to do alone as a solo character. You may have had the privilege of actual regular grouping, a bunch of friends and acquaintances, and possibly even an active guild. This game is extremely deadly, and while it's one of its selling points when the game is running optimally, it places a large portion of the game's content out of the average newbie's reach when they're by themselves. They'll have enough difficulties even getting to a level where exploration isn't complete suicide.
Tasan wrote:sotana wrote:I did it because it was fun in its own right and I loved (then and still do now) playing my class and seeing what I could do. I realize it's not for everyone but, for some folks, it is a very valuable part of their mud experience and worth noting and allowing the newbies to discover for themselves.
Not everyone can be a druid.
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