Hitting with off hand?

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shalath
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Hitting with off hand?

Postby shalath » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:50 am

So I have a spiffy blade with a proc that goes through coldshield/fireshield. I wield it, and wield nothing in the off hand, but when I fight a shielded mob, I still hit that mob with my off hand and damage myself.

I've tried holding something in that hand, as follows:

<primary> a wickedly curved blade with a twisted leather hilt (magic)
<held> the heartstone of Sakaslan (magic) (illuminating)

but somehow I still manage to hit and kill myself on the shield. Could this be fixed, so that I have a way of only attacking with one weapon?

Many thanks,

-simon
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Re: Hitting with off hand?

Postby Birile » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:33 pm

shalath wrote:I've tried holding something in that hand ... but somehow I still manage to hit and kill myself on the shield.


You must have one hell of a left hook!
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Postby Ghimok » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:20 pm

Wield a very dead rat or a blunt training <insert> in your offhand.
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Postby shalath » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:58 am

Well, I tried it like this:

<primary> a wickedly curved blade with a twisted leather hilt (magic)
<secondary> a very dead rat

But still got this:

<T>
Your blade flares brightly as it passes through a Zhentarim spirit's coldshield!
Your blade flares brightly as it passes through a Zhentarim spirit's coldshield!
You attack a Zhentarim spirit, landing three hits.
You injured yourself on a Zhentarim spirit's magical shield three times.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
<255h>

Surely this is a bug?

-simon
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Postby Vigis » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:49 am

I'd tog condensed off to investigate it further. You need to make sure you aren't actually attacking 3x with your weapon (riposte maybe?) and the weapon just doesn't proc every time.

Since no imms have posted on it, I assume that they either haven't seen the thread or there is nothing wrong with it.

Then again, this is coming from somebody who has no business posting in gameplay :) I haven't played in ages and didn't play well when I did :D
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Postby Eilistraee » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:35 am

It's not a bug.

The weapon doesn't let you hit past fire/coldshield with impunity. It does more damage to the mob as it attacks past the shield, but still does the damage back to you.

This was the intent of the zone writer, clarified by me several times. The weapon doesn't give you immunity to fire/coldshield, it just does more damage to the mob when you hit them with the shield up and aren't warded youself. Call it a kamikaze blade perhaps.
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Postby Lilira » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:10 pm

Kamikaze... but with style!!

I love the name of this blade.
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Postby Thilindel » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:37 pm

Lilira wrote:Kamikaze... but with style!!

I love the name of this blade.


You love anything with leather
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Postby Lilira » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:03 pm

My deepest darkest secret exposed.
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You group-say 'my chars will carry the component on them if I can.'
Inama group-says 'hopefully they'll have some sort of volume discounts on ress items for people like you'
You group-say 'oh? Ya think? *giggle*'
Inama group-says 'they could at least implement frequent dier miles'

Suzalize group-says 'oh, eya's over weight i bet'
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Postby shalath » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:47 am

Eilistraee wrote:It's not a bug.

The weapon doesn't let you hit past fire/coldshield with impunity. It does more damage to the mob as it attacks past the shield, but still does the damage back to you.

This was the intent of the zone writer, clarified by me several times. The weapon doesn't give you immunity to fire/coldshield, it just does more damage to the mob when you hit them with the shield up and aren't warded youself. Call it a kamikaze blade perhaps.


Thanks for the explanation Eil! Was confusing me because it's exactly the same message as ward. Kamikaze blade it is!

-simon
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