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Postby thanuk » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:24 am

Relod completes his spell...
Relod utters the words, 'qpaui diesilla'
A writhing bolt of lightning leaves Relod's hands...
A banedead is dead! R.I.P.
You receive your share of experience.
Your blood freezes as you hear the rattling death cry of a banedead.
Relod's chain lightning hits one target.
And finally fizzles out.
<1093h>
<P>
Aremat starts casting a spell.
<1093h>
<P>
Lilithelle sits down in a comfortable spot.
Tranis searches about for his ammunition, but doesn't seem to find any.
<1092h>
<P>
Lilithelle takes out her holy symbol and begins praying intently.
<1091h>
<P>
Tranis searches about for his ammunition, but doesn't seem to find any.
<1091h>
<P>
A banedead shambles in from the south.
Aremat completes his spell...
Aremat utters the words, 'efaoaigqarzg'
Runopopo's skin transforms into hard-plated dragon scales.
Tranis searches about for his ammunition, but doesn't seem to find any.
<1090h>
<P>

Being the ferocious sort, you charge at the enemy!
You're too busy to do that yet!

Ardessa slashes a banedead.
<1090h>
<P>
Runopopo sits down in a comfortable spot.
<1090h>
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'
You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'
Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'
You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'
Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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Postby Yasden » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:12 am

Because you were lagged from a previous aggro, or other lagging action like bash/kick/hitall/headbutt.

Agg 0 is a great way to start a big fight, but if you're constantly lagged by rescues, you're not going to be much help with the walkins if you're engaged in combat.
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Why Nerox is jealous of me:

Nerox tells you 'man this thing is kicking my ass and i have blisters!'
Nerox tells you 'ok attempting it again put tape on my fingers for easier sliding'
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Postby thanuk » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:48 am

Yasden wrote:Because you were lagged from a previous aggro, or other lagging action like bash/kick/hitall/headbutt.

Agg 0 is a great way to start a big fight, but if you're constantly lagged by rescues, you're not going to be much help with the walkins if you're engaged in combat.


then why does it go off at all? what you're saying makes sense but when your lagged your aggressive usually wont trigger. Every once in a while ill see this, or itll give me the "Being the aggressive sort you charge at the enemy!" and i wont get the too busy message and i wont engage either. I think somethins screwy with it is basically what im gettin at here.
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'

You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'

Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'

You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'

Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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Postby Yasden » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:14 am

You get that message because you're not in combat but you're still lagged. If you were in combat you wouldn't see it at all.
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Why Nerox is jealous of me:



Nerox tells you 'man this thing is kicking my ass and i have blisters!'

Nerox tells you 'ok attempting it again put tape on my fingers for easier sliding'
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Postby thanuk » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:01 am

ok fine then explain this:

A Beachhead of Obsidian Shards
Room size: Enormous (L:250 ft W:250 ft H:250 ft)
Exits: -E -S -U
Corpse of a massive magma drake is shimmering here.
[2] Corpse of a gargantuan magma drake is lying here.
Aremat (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Aldira Mindaeliana (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here, fighting a massive magma drake.
The ghost of a duergar scout stands here.
Alvathair (Human) stands, inches above the surface here.
Gugal (Halfling) stands in mid-air here.
Erarim (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Calieres (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here, fighting a massive magma drake.
Ruan Estorian (RP) (Human) stands in mid-air here.
Lase -Hand of Death- Triterium (Human) stands here, fighting a massive magma drake.
[b]A massive magma drake stands here, fighting YOU![/b]
Pimakoto -Hammer of Time- Triterium (Gnome) stands in mid-air here.
Elemam (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Larim Lioneyes (Barbarian) stands in mid-air here, fighting a massive magma drake.
Elemam takes aim and begins frantically firing his rune-covered fiery Warbow of hellish fury!
Ruan starts casting a spell.
Erarim gets a breadfish from his satchel of white abishai skin.
<680h>
<P>
Erarim quaffs a breadfish.
Erarim summons a holy light, which closes some of his wounds.
<680h>
<P>
Aremat completes his spell...
Aremat utters the words, 'efaoaigqarzg'
Gugal's skin transforms into hard-plated dragon scales.
<680h>
<P>
Erarim takes aim and begins frantically firing his rune-covered fiery Warbow of hellish fury!
<680h>
<P>
Yog flies in from above.
<681h>
<P>
Yog starts casting a spell.
<681h>
<P>
Tabor flies in from the south.
<681h>
<P>
Inama flies in from the south.
<681h>
<P>

A momentary brilliant glow originating from Lase's circlet begins
a rapid change in her appearance. Countless serpents begin to uncoil,
slithering and sliding their way down and around Lase's arms, neck,
and torso, granting her a reptilian quickstrike ability! As her eyes gleam
a vivid yellow the brief enchantment begins to fade. Quickly as
they descended, the serpents twist and twine their way back to the magic
within their circlet.
Inama starts casting an offensive spell.
Thammos ASSOC:: '54 players on...minus 15 in magma = 39...could run two more groups'
<681h>
<P> A massive magma drake slashes Aldira brutally with a fearsome claw!
A massive magma drake spreads his wings and ROARS, filling your heart with terror!
Inama stops invoking abruptly!
Inama attempts to flee.
Inama flies east.
Aldira flies east.
Tabor flies east.
Aremat flies east.
Alvathair flies east.
The ghost of a duergar scout flies east.
You follow Inama east.

The Elemental Plane of Magma
Room size: Enormous (L:250 ft W:250 ft H:250 ft)
Exits: -E -S -W
The ghost of a duergar scout stands here.
Alvathair (Human) stands, inches above the surface here.
Aremat (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Tabor -Firebeard- Triterium (Dwarf) stands in mid-air here.
Aldira Mindaeliana (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Inama (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Gugal flies in from the west.
Larim flies in from the west.
Calieres flies in from the west.
Pimakoto flies in from the west.
Your skin crawls as you hear a death cry nearby!
You do not see that here.
<681h>
<P>

so aggro doesnt work cuz im lagged but i can follow while tanking and lagged? makes sense doesnt it:)
Last edited by thanuk on Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'

You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'

Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'

You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'

Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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Postby thanuk » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:22 am

< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
Larim barely crushes a gargantuan magma drake.
The ghost of a gargantuan magma elemental barely drains a gargantuan magma drake.
The ghost of a gargantuan magma elemental starts casting an offensive spell.
The ghost of a magma elemental barely drains a gargantuan magma drake.
The ghost of a magma elemental starts casting an offensive spell.
Tabor barely crushes a gargantuan magma drake.
Tabor is burned severely as he hits a gargantuan magma drake!
Pimakoto barely crushes a magman.
Pimakoto is burned severely as she hits a magman!
You slash a gargantuan magma drake.
You slash a gargantuan magma drake.
You parry a gargantuan magma drake's lunge at you.
A gargantuan magma drake spreads its wings and ROARS, filling your heart with terror!
The ghost of a magma elemental stops invoking abruptly!
Inama stops invoking abruptly!
Inama attempts to flee.
Inama flies north.
< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
Larim group-says '*** Dragonscales Out ***'
< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
Yog completes his spell...
Yog utters the words, 'gsufuh xgruqt'
A gargantuan magma drake's body convulses with pain inflicted by Yog.
< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
Inama flies in from the north.
< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
The flames engulfing a magman subside.
Aremat completes his spell...
Aremat utters the words, 'efaoaigqarzg'
Gugal's skin transforms into hard-plated dragon scales.
< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
A harmonious combination of notes from Aldira soothes your wounds.
< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
Yog starts casting an offensive spell.
< 1174h/1174H 127v/127V >
< T: Thanuk TC: excellent E: gargantuan EC: awful P: std >
Ruan's wounds continue to bleed uncontrollably!
A gargantuan magma drake staggers from a fearsome crush from Larim!
Larim lands a mighty crush on a gargantuan magma drake!
The ghost of a magma elemental drains a gargantuan magma drake hard.
The ghost of a magma elemental drains a gargantuan magma drake hard.
The ghost of a magma elemental starts casting an offensive spell.
A gargantuan magma drake is nearly slain by the force of Lase's pierce!
A gargantuan magma drake spreads its wings and ROARS, filling your heart with terror!
Inama attempts to flee.
Inama flies north.
Aldira flies north.
Tabor flies north.
Ruan flies north.
Elemam flies north.
You follow Inama north.

The Elemental Plane of Magma
Room size: Enormous (L:250 ft W:250 ft H:250 ft)
Exits: -N -E -S -W
A few coins.
Elemam (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Ruan Estorian (RP) (Human) stands in mid-air here.
Tabor -Firebeard- Triterium (Dwarf) stands in mid-air here.
Aldira Mindaeliana (RP) (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Inama (Grey Elf) stands in mid-air here.
Larim enters from the south.
Calieres enters from the south.
Erarim enters from the south.
Your skin crawls as you hear a death cry nearby!
< 1174h/1174H 126v/127V >
< P: std >
Mysrel tells you 'have my babies'

You tell Mysrel 'u want me to be ur baby daddy?'

Mysrel tells you 'daddy? No, I think you have the terminology wrong'

You tell Mysrel 'comeon now we both know i would be the top'

Mysrel tells you 'can be where ever you want to be, yer still getting ****** like a drunken cheerleader'
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Postby Tasan » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:08 pm

Lase's next pierce incapacitated/mortally wounded the mob. This is a logic issue that has existed since "new dragon" combat went in. Dragons WITHOUT fail, proc(roar is higher chance than most I assume) upon combat initiation(in this case, it was incap and not subject to already being in combat)... Here's what happened:

Lase's next combat strike puts the mob at incap/mortal... however...

Before that message is sent, the mob is allowed it's "final proc"(due to being "out of combat(combat initiator proc))" which is the roar. Because it is in the process of being incap'd, you are being removed from tanking(this is an old issue regardless of vicious togged etc. I'm sure it has to due with a few factors including how the proc is written and how dragon combat actions are written).

When the leader is forced to flee, you follow because you aren't engaged(I know that it make look like you are, but as I said that's a logic issue w/ the timing of events). Lase's subsequently kills the mob on the pierce AFTER the one you didn't get to see because you were forced to follow away.

You'd have to ask Lase about what Lase saw, but that's more or less the jist of the issue. This is based on my observations from the game and what I know of the code.
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