Nice quick fleeing and other nonsense...

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Nice quick fleeing and other nonsense...

Postby Adriorn Darkcloak » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:31 pm

cast 'power word blind' 3.guard
You start chanting...
A Comarian village guard misses you with his slash.
flee

<969h>
<T>
You complete your spell...
They are too powerful to blind this way

<969h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard misses you with his slash.

<969h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard leader misses you with his slash.

<969h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard leader attacks you, landing a single hit.
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing two hits.
A Comarian village guard passes harmlessly through you.

<966h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard says 'I must assist my friend!'
Your flesh loses its stony texture.
A Comarian village guard barely slashes you.

<965h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard says 'I must assist my friend!'

<965h>
<T>
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing a single hit.
A Comarian village guard leader passes harmlessly through you.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing two hits.
A Comarian village guard passes harmlessly through you.

<866h>
<T>
You are getting hungry.

<867h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard passes harmlessly through you.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing a single hit.

<828h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard says 'I must assist my friend!'

<829h>
<T>
OUCH! That really did HURT!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing two hits.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard leader attacks you, landing two hits.
A Comarian village guard leader sends you sprawling.
st
OUCH! That really did HURT!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing two hits.
A Comarian village guard passes harmlessly through you.
You stumble and miss badly!
An air elemental stops following you.

<493h>
<T>

<493h>
<T> flee

OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing a single hit.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard leader attacks you, landing a single hit.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing a single hit.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing two hits.
A Comarian village guard slams his shield into you, and you stagger in pain!
The world starts spinning, and your ears are ringing!

<274h>
<T>
The world stops spinning.

<274h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard passes harmlessly through you.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard leader attacks you, landing a single hit.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing a single hit.
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing a single hit.

<124h>
<T>
A Comarian village guard says 'I must assist my friend!'

<124h>
<T> flee
OUCH! That really did HURT!
A Comarian village guard attacks you, landing a single hit.
YIKES! Another hit like that, and you've had it!!
A Comarian village guard leader attacks you, landing a single hit.
A Comarian village guard attemps to shieldpunch you, but you dodge it in time!
You are mortally wounded, and will die soon, if not aided.
You are in pretty bad shape, unable to do anything!

<6h>
< > You are in pretty bad shape, unable to do anything!

<6h>
< > Your vitality drains away.
gsay :::::::::: VIT OUT ::::::::::
Your magic armor fades away.
gsay :::::::::: ARMOR OUT ::::::::::
Your elemental embodiment enchantment fades, and you feel able to focus again.
Your body shimmers and sheds its elemental form, returning to normal.
Your body shimmers and sheds its elemental form, returning to normal.
Your body shimmers and sheds its elemental form, returning to normal.
Your body shimmers and sheds its elemental form, returning to normal.

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Excuse me for possibly being naive and ignorant, but,

Why didn't I flee immediately?

Why was the guard able to bash me while air embodied?

Why was the guard able to shieldpunch me while air embodied? (*)


* I can possibly see this as making sense, so if it's a normal occurrence, I'll understand it.
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Postby Yasden » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:43 am

Welcome to the wonderful world of zMUD eating commands. It happens once in a rare while for whatever reason, I haven't figured it out yet myself.

I believe in response to the air embodiment question, you're only partially wraithform (same with fire embody), so you're always going to run the risk of getting bashed.

Suggestion for next time would be to tog a wimpy so the MUD's responsible for your fleeing in whatever conditions you're dealing with (lag, zMUD suckage, etc.).
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Postby Tasan » Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:11 am

Actually, this is probably not that particular issue, but rather the interaction of bash and air embodiment.

I'm guessing the check for whether or not you get bashed comes after the successful bash check thus lagging you regardless when the mob "missed" due to your status, and not due to skill.

Just a wild guess, since it happened several times and seemed to stack.
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Postby Thilindel » Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:10 am

Probably the true screw you over was getting shieldpunched. That stuns you forever. Odd, that it connected while you were bashed, given it's so hard to land sp while something's down.
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Postby Demuladon » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:49 pm

(i) Maybe the flee tried to go through while you were still casting?

(ii) Unless it's changed you have ~ 1/3 chance of getting bashed while air emboded. I notice the mobs failed 2 bashes here before the 3rd bash connected, however you'll need to go die ~6 more times for the sample to be statistically significant.

(iii) I've never done the stats but I've a gut feeling mob shield punch >> player shield punch. Back before the undead tridents were nerfed Muxx and i tried 2man AV with a ogre/battlechanter combo (both of us hasted with unholy word procing weapons - it should have worked!!) however I couldn't keep a song up long enough because of silly dwarf shieldpunch.
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Postby Gormal » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:00 pm

You were shieldpunched, and air embody is not a gauranteed prevention of bash. You can actually land bashes when fire/air'd. The SP is what killed you tho.
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Postby bawog » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:51 am

The reason why you died is because when you cast power word blind it does lag you briefly until the mobs became engaged and when you scroll down a bit into your combat log when the first round went off which is where the command should have gone through at the end is where the bash landed. Kinda sucky but Nerox bit it many times from that before I figured it out that pwb lags you for a bit.
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Postby Yasden » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:08 am

And still needs a tog wimpy max for that situation! :P
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