fatwa, no body scanners

[kiryan]

http://www.freep.com/article/20100211/N ... uslims-say

This is gonna be great. full body scanners declared forbidden by Muslim council of North America. I can't see how it will be very long before all muslim councils support this same rule setting up religious freedom lawsuits all over the western world. TSA don't think its a big deal because the scans are optional... but that has to be their long term desire... and I can see councils ruling that pat downs are forbidden at some point too. Will be interesting to see how it develops.

[avak]

Yeah, have you seen the other option? Full pat down and inspection.

Who cares...the system is broken...we're a reactionary country. Shoe bomber? Now you have to take off your shoes...liquid threat? Now you have to get your water bottle tested. Etc etc.

The answer is real security through trained personnel and behavior profiling instead of this absurdity we currently have. That and a paradigm shift in foreign policy that makes us a friend and not a target.

[kiryan]

Yea... I agree with you except even a shift in foreign policy is not going to make us not a target. We are a target for many reasons, including the simple truth that we are #1.

[teflor the ranger]

Nowhere in the United States Constitution is the individual citizen guaranteed a right to fly. Furthermore, in defense of the Muslim council, no one should ever subject themselves to a full body scanner unless they really just don't give a crap.

[teflor the ranger]

That and a paradigm shift in foreign policy that makes us a friend and not a target.

The idea that you can be a friend to all is simply absurd. It is also an ideal America has already been chasing for the last half a century. Next.

[avak]

There is a pretty obvious correlation between the aggressiveness and overtness of a country's foreign policy and the attention of terrorists. Suggesting we examine that is not the same as suggesting that we become friends to all.

[teflor the ranger]

There is a pretty obvious correlation between the aggressiveness and overtness of a country's foreign policy and the attention of terrorists. Suggesting we examine that is not the same as suggesting that we become friends to all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01795.html

In an intelligence report completed in May, the Swiss Federal Police reversed previous assessments that the domestic risk of terrorism was nearly nonexistent. The report concluded that Switzerland had become "a jihadi field of operation" and predicted that terrorist attacks were "an increasing possibility."

the Dutch government has classified the risk of a terrorist attack as "substantial," a threat level proportionally higher than in the United States

In October 2004, Spanish authorities announced that they had broken up a plot by a cell of Moroccan radicals to drive a truck bomb into the National Court building in Madrid.



-- It seems there were many foreign governments that once agreed with you, Avak. I don't believe they think that anymore. Certainly, the Spanish and the Japanese haven't for a while now.

[Corth]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time

[kiryan]

lol good point, the french / euro style of thinking just leads to capitulation and being conquered.

[avak]

Like the Romans?

[kiryan]

basically I'm done with war. I think we have an obligation to finish these 2, but I won't be supporting war with Iran even if they do get a nuclear weapon. Just let all the bitches in europe china and russia go it alone. time for isolationism and a big sign "miss me yet" when they figure out exactly how much "good" we were at least trying to do.

http://www.nationalledger.com/ledgerdc/ ... 0388.shtml

[Corth]

lol good point, the french / euro style of thinking just leads to capitulation and being conquered.

Kind of the flip side of GWB's "Mission Accomplished"

[Disoputlip]

I am amazed about how foreseeing Allah was when he told the Koran to Muhammed.

The fact that he had a view about full bodyscanners in airports show just how insane knowledge he had.