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Spell Durations

Postby Delmair Aamoren » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:39 pm

Any chance we can look at the duration of certain self-buffs? It seems to me that barkskin and armor are a great, lengthy duration, and spells like "bless", and "dark wrath" seem to expire every fight or every two fights. I realize these spells are in a circle that i can memorize multiples of, but so is armor.

Just a thought.

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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Thilindel » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:51 am

One thing I've noticed, since your duration thought made me thing of a flanking fact is that MOBS' spells, like blind, silence, and a couple others last _longer_ than player's spells. I sure the hell wish they'd fix that.

But yes, as per this thread, bless is like 6? minutes. I don't know why it's shorter than armor. I know D&D's bless is fairly short iirc. 1 turn maybe?
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Ardessa Moonblade » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:39 am

I think the toughest spells duration wise are the chanter ones. Sucks having to cast blur 30+ times per zone for 3 or more warriors. There is definitely no class with a more legitimate gripe about the agony of spell-up.
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Gormal » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:30 pm

Ardessa Moonblade wrote:I think the toughest spells duration wise are the chanter ones. Sucks having to cast blur 30+ times per zone for 3 or more warriors. There is definitely no class with a more legitimate gripe about the agony of spell-up.


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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Thilindel » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:02 pm

And how much do we see you volunteering to chant for us, jake?
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Botef » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:31 pm

Chanting only ever gets overburdening for me when you throw a 4th spell into the picture. I can handle a pretty heavy chanting load just fine but throw in 3 or more melee that require haste/globe, plus blur/scale and everything else it does start to get a little taxing. Managing 3 spells is great, 4 starts to get a bit cumbersome and turns into a 2-3 hour spellup real quick. This could easily be remedied if the other classes with haste/globe weren't so damn lazy and could RELIABLY pick up some of the slack.
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Ardessa Moonblade » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:22 pm

You're missing the point Jake. You definitely _never_ volunteer to chant that I have seen. Also, a well equipped rogue is just as overpowered, if not more so, than an enchanter. They just don't have to cast 200+ spells per zone in a timely manner (or the group spanks).

The only other caster that's as thankless in zones would be a cleric. Is it a coincidence that these are the two classes that are generally most difficult to get for a zone group?
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Inames » Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:47 am

Ardessa Moonblade wrote:They just don't have to cast 200+ spells per zone in a timely manner (or the group spanks).


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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Gormal » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:33 pm

Elementalists have just as much to do as enchanters, but 95% of the people who show up to zone as one suck complete balls and only embody themself and spam lava burst/earthblood.

The way that blur currently works and the entire reason that its so powerful is because its not affected by how many times its hit like stoneskin. You're asking for enchanter downgrades because if you increase the duration, you pretty have to reduce its effectiveness in combat because there will be nearly no risk of it falling anymore. As for the rest of enchanter load, globes/hastes can easily be taken up by elem/lich but rarely are.

Lets be honest here, enchanter is not the super difficult class it once was with everyone running around as grey elves with oodles of maxagi. You can miss more than a few beats, and the group won't even notice.
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Thilindel » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:12 pm

Gormal wrote:Elementalists have just as much to do as enchanters



LOL...

haha

hahaha

(catches breath)

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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Dalar » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:28 pm

DSR use to do zones with dwarven tanks and no blur btw.
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby bawog » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:10 pm

Chanting is how you say a workhorse of a group, more than any other class in a dungeon group. However enchanters are seriously the most soloable class in game if you have the patience for it. Some crazy things I've solo'd as Nerox and if I were to get back in the swing of things I'd bet I could take a dragon 1v1. Would take me 4 hours but would be awesome none the less. Enchanters can tank like a champ when soloing and you take like 0 damage. Human chanters get that agi notch like crazy which makes suicidal chanterage even more fun. But I can understand how its a pain to have to cast 500+ spells in a typical zone, but hell with half the chanters using scripts takes the fun out of it. Yes I've made scripts but prefer the manual chanting with a bunch of aliases. How many tank could you keep fully spelled? 6-8 if needed if you time your tickes right cause you'd have spells following in seperate ticks instead of all at once, Which is what I'd do in zones as to lighten the burden in zones. While keeping the healers scaled at all times in the process. Chanting is a bunch of fun but in the end its not for everyone.
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Thilindel » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:08 pm

bawog wrote:Some crazy things I've solo'd as Nerox and if I were to get back in the swing of things I'd bet I could take a dragon 1v1. Would take me 4 hours but would be awesome none the less.


Is that four hours before or after all the res'g you'd need? :P
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Re: Spell Durations

Postby Gormal » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:28 am

This thread got me to put Thil back on ignore...


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