Sheer Generosity--stuff you got free
Sheer Generosity--stuff you got free
What was the most valuable or usable item that was ever just <u>given</u> to you. And by whom. (if you remember you greedy bastards!)
For me there were many, but the one that sticks out in my mind is when Dlur handed Vurad (level 36 or so) a set of platemail of life. That was generous.
Wobb/Vurad/Dror
For me there were many, but the one that sticks out in my mind is when Dlur handed Vurad (level 36 or so) a set of platemail of life. That was generous.
Wobb/Vurad/Dror
Most generous gift? was from korin who gave me a lot of his time showing me around EM, how a diku mud works (sojourn was my first diku, 4 previous years of lpc muds only), and introduced me to some other folks
Belle
Also all the folks whom helped me zone windsong
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Belle
Also all the folks whom helped me zone windsong
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Some lvl 20 illithid who pas powerleveling with level 50 eq in SS, gave me a belt of iron bands back when I was a crappy newbie anti all alone in Bloodstone...
and then there was a troll who gave me the jot mithril broadsword after I asked if he could help kill the gang leader... I fumbled my bloodstone saber and thought that surely a big bad level 50 troll could kill that gang leader - instead he just gave me that sword!
and then there was a troll who gave me the jot mithril broadsword after I asked if he could help kill the gang leader... I fumbled my bloodstone saber and thought that surely a big bad level 50 troll could kill that gang leader - instead he just gave me that sword!
Mplor translocated into the room I was loafing around, on the street of Dragons next to Zakara's. He digs around in his bag and fishes out a tiny ruby ring, and hands it to me. I think I might have talked to him once before when I helped cr some fellow in Minthka. I was surprised and quite gracious.
Yayaril
Yayaril
Two things come to mind. On Toril, it was getting a tiny gold earring from Soltau I think. I'd been in groups that killed the ancient brownie a few times but never won the bid. So at level 41 I was still wearing star-shaped onyx earrings.
On Sojourn, it was getting a TG from Belle. Again, killed off the brownie more than a few times, never won the bid. Thanks again Belle =P
Trel
On Sojourn, it was getting a TG from Belle. Again, killed off the brownie more than a few times, never won the bid. Thanks again Belle =P
Trel
When I first started playing hmmm... Korjil (barb warr) i was given 10plat that very first day from some cleric that was quitting. A splint shield and some other SS stuff from loryeth which i quickly lost in the pitch-black NE of TP. Then I was as my first paladin arcanix and some treehumpin calamari gave me my first upgrade from a steel longsword.. a 2h polished mith pike. Then i finally settled down with my conj thenal who got my first piece of zone eq statue of elissatrae? as a consolation gift/prize. As Khadyn I was given an extra scepter of val from z'kurz cuz there was nothin i could use and volos were prereserved. (which he let me turn in for an xtra chance at the volos the next run btw ) And lessee.. and in the latest incarnation of soj as Koric, i started a few days late and bravn threw a venomous blade at me right off the bat!
PS Thanks
PS Thanks
My most valuable gift was the Holy Avenger that Eye Aeternum gave me upon joining the guild. It was the third one gotten that wipe, and only one of two still in the game...
Agreiver
p.s. Malacar what about when I gave you my full suit of eq, including TWO lightning earrings? (which you subsequently lost all of it)
Agreiver
p.s. Malacar what about when I gave you my full suit of eq, including TWO lightning earrings? (which you subsequently lost all of it)
Back in the days of Toril I was drawn to the fountain for a shouting lvl 50 cleric for free mace and skull platemail. His condition was that I shout how his god was superior to all others. Anyone know who this was for a lil quiz?:P
Best gifts i've ever seen given is when mplor walked around waterdeep passing out his entire set of equip from his alts...including seer eq and scorp earrings etc. He said somethign to me to the effect of "other people on their primes can use this stuff way more then I can because I play invker so much so its stupid of me to have this" one of the most impressive things i've seen on sojourn ever...cheers mp!
The greatest single "gift" i've seen is when thorgil left and gave pheten his entire set of eq...which was pretty spanky. And pheten would sit there and pull out lke multiple sets of green dragon armor and crap to taunt newbies at TP:P
Best gifts i've ever seen given is when mplor walked around waterdeep passing out his entire set of equip from his alts...including seer eq and scorp earrings etc. He said somethign to me to the effect of "other people on their primes can use this stuff way more then I can because I play invker so much so its stupid of me to have this" one of the most impressive things i've seen on sojourn ever...cheers mp!
The greatest single "gift" i've seen is when thorgil left and gave pheten his entire set of eq...which was pretty spanky. And pheten would sit there and pull out lke multiple sets of green dragon armor and crap to taunt newbies at TP:P
Sword of Rippling Flames. Dint even know the person. When Emerald Longsword lost its haste, I was soooo lost, dint know what to get. So I was shouting from the fountain for a descent sword and he came around and gave it to me. I dint even know what it was till I tried it. Was a cool sword, cant wait to get my hands on it again.
Lithius
Lithius
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The best gift I ever recieved was a pair of grey suede boots when they still had haste. I was wandering on the docks of WD killing navies and some little thief walks in and asks me to tank for him. I did and he starts smacking the navies around and after a while I was like man you hit pretty hard. He says here and hands me the boots. I helped him get several levels and then he had to go. I hand him the boots back and he says just keep them I got 6 more pairs or something crazy like that. I never saw him again and don't even remember his name.
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well, two things come to mind.
the first one was actually from Mask. this was during Toril and my character (barbie warrior named Darmal) had been hacked, and the character was killed and all my eq lost. i told the gods and mask looked into it. a few days later he caught up to me and gave all my stuff back in a tattered silken sack, something i had been trying to get for quite some time.
the second item was from Brugg. i usually got anything that he didnt want and didnt feel like trading off. but the best was the fang dagger he gave me a few weeks before the shutdown. it screwed up my perfect ansi a bit, but it was to cool not to use :P
Cir
the first one was actually from Mask. this was during Toril and my character (barbie warrior named Darmal) had been hacked, and the character was killed and all my eq lost. i told the gods and mask looked into it. a few days later he caught up to me and gave all my stuff back in a tattered silken sack, something i had been trying to get for quite some time.
the second item was from Brugg. i usually got anything that he didnt want and didnt feel like trading off. but the best was the fang dagger he gave me a few weeks before the shutdown. it screwed up my perfect ansi a bit, but it was to cool not to use :P
Cir
I blacked that portion of my memory totally out. That was I think the lowest point of my mud career, and one of the reasons I quit. I felt so utterly guilty that I couldn't log on without wracking myself.
It was probably the coolest thing anyone ever did for me, and like everything else I touched in my life at that time, it went to crap... Aggie, I am still sorry to this day.
Mal
It was probably the coolest thing anyone ever did for me, and like everything else I touched in my life at that time, it went to crap... Aggie, I am still sorry to this day.
Mal
Man, that's nothing guys! This one takes the cake, for real...
I remember one time I was piddling around in some obscure part of WD when Pez logged on...hehe. I OOC'd something to effect of "I want some yummy Pez!", and poof, Pez transed to me! Of course, there was like no one around my area, and I won of bunch of Pez's. And of course, the global was spamming across the MUD whenever I played, so I was getting swamped with tells saying, "Where are you?!"
I know, I know...it was just Pez, but you all know that kinda stuff to a halfling is priceless!
Rymbie/Shyarn
I remember one time I was piddling around in some obscure part of WD when Pez logged on...hehe. I OOC'd something to effect of "I want some yummy Pez!", and poof, Pez transed to me! Of course, there was like no one around my area, and I won of bunch of Pez's. And of course, the global was spamming across the MUD whenever I played, so I was getting swamped with tells saying, "Where are you?!"
I know, I know...it was just Pez, but you all know that kinda stuff to a halfling is priceless!
Rymbie/Shyarn
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Geez, I received so many gifts from so many cool people. I can't remember all the people who gave me stuff, but I do remember getting faerie goggles, dwarven mith battle hammer (proc chain was so fun!), and tons of other cool stuffs. My goal is to be the one handing out stuff instead of receiving stuff this time around. I gotta go zoning this time!
Nizrath
Nizrath
I remember the exact date... I was mudding on christmas night. As it turns out it was the last christmas before the place shut down. Anyway, I was coming back from... Shadow Grove? I think that is what it was called.
On my way back over the water, I ran some mob that aggroed on me, my first round of combat and my gleaming holy longsword, which i bought probably 2 days prior went sploosh.
Heartbroken I went back to fountain and was telling the story to a friend, when suddenly someone just up and gave me a gleaming holy. It meant an awful lot to me that someone would do something like that and I wish I could remember your name friend.
Alban
On my way back over the water, I ran some mob that aggroed on me, my first round of combat and my gleaming holy longsword, which i bought probably 2 days prior went sploosh.
Heartbroken I went back to fountain and was telling the story to a friend, when suddenly someone just up and gave me a gleaming holy. It meant an awful lot to me that someone would do something like that and I wish I could remember your name friend.
Alban
Mplor gave me a scorpion mask, because somehow he knew the mud was going to go down soon. This was maybe 3 weeks before the close.
I lost my eq 2 wipes back, and Mamoru gave me a backpack with like, a deco, a lost sword, a tiny golden earring, redweaves, yeti boots, and some other stuff. I about dead fainted.
- Ragorn
I lost my eq 2 wipes back, and Mamoru gave me a backpack with like, a deco, a lost sword, a tiny golden earring, redweaves, yeti boots, and some other stuff. I about dead fainted.
- Ragorn
RYMBIE!! *bounce*
*lick halfling warrior* :P
hihi
ok im done :P
hrmm...most of the stuff i got was from Korin as we roleplayed marriage
He basically handed down his stuff to me as he got better stuff Gotta thank him for that
gotta thank hakabat for just handing me a silver gith sword with my first char (Tulta barb war) ever on soj/toril
i was only like lvl 10
im forgetting people who gave me stuff but my brain has been way too drugged with all this medication lately
oh yah, krimon gave me quest items for gate and meteor swarm and that spanky mage hat..the +20hp one...ah yes..coronet of the githzerai rebels
i was so shocked the day he just up and handed me an ice berry :P
thanks krim
Jennie
*lick halfling warrior* :P
hihi
ok im done :P
hrmm...most of the stuff i got was from Korin as we roleplayed marriage
He basically handed down his stuff to me as he got better stuff Gotta thank him for that
gotta thank hakabat for just handing me a silver gith sword with my first char (Tulta barb war) ever on soj/toril
i was only like lvl 10
im forgetting people who gave me stuff but my brain has been way too drugged with all this medication lately
oh yah, krimon gave me quest items for gate and meteor swarm and that spanky mage hat..the +20hp one...ah yes..coronet of the githzerai rebels
i was so shocked the day he just up and handed me an ice berry :P
thanks krim
Jennie
Back on Toril, evils had a very nice system of hand-me-down eq. As one person got a nice piece, what he/she had been using was passed down to someone else. In this way, almost everyone always got something out of a zone group. I got lots of decent stuph that way until I got big and bad enough to be one of the people getting the zone items and giving others the hand-me-downs.
But I also still remember the day that someone first gave me something for free. I was about level 10 or so, wandering through Ixarkon killing stuph with whatever sad stabber I had and Gledrukmig (Santego) walked by and handed me a wicked black stiletto. I was in total shock and forever grateful and we became great friends. =)
--D2
But I also still remember the day that someone first gave me something for free. I was about level 10 or so, wandering through Ixarkon killing stuph with whatever sad stabber I had and Gledrukmig (Santego) walked by and handed me a wicked black stiletto. I was in total shock and forever grateful and we became great friends. =)
--D2
I can't remember the name of the person who did this now, but way back in my first incarnation, I was around level 8 as a cleric and some grey elf sends me a tell asking if i can spare a ration. so I word of recall back to Leuth wander to the fountain and cast create food. As i do that he starts handing a PILE of stuff 2 fireweeds, turtleshell eyepatch, mace and skull ringmail, 2 titanium rings(back when they were 75HP) the list goes on, basically a full set of high-level HP gear(worked out to around -80 ac as well). He said the ration was just to make sure that I was a generous sort <G> to whomever you were thanks!
Elarin is losing his memory
Elarin is losing his memory
Rofl I just rememberd a couple other things!
Kajib, Archung still owes you those suede boots from toril!
And to whoever left a small leather bag at 1w during the Toril era with 2 tit rings in them i was very grateful as I traded them to stack out my monk better than most monks who were way higher then me!
Kajib, Archung still owes you those suede boots from toril!
And to whoever left a small leather bag at 1w during the Toril era with 2 tit rings in them i was very grateful as I traded them to stack out my monk better than most monks who were way higher then me!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by D2:
<B>I was about level 10 or so, wandering through Ixarkon killing stuph with whatever sad stabber I had and Gledrukmig (Santego) walked by and handed me a wicked black stiletto. I was in total shock and forever grateful and we became great friends. =)
--D2</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is off subject, but do you (or anyone) know if Gled is gonna play this time around?
<B>I was about level 10 or so, wandering through Ixarkon killing stuph with whatever sad stabber I had and Gledrukmig (Santego) walked by and handed me a wicked black stiletto. I was in total shock and forever grateful and we became great friends. =)
--D2</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is off subject, but do you (or anyone) know if Gled is gonna play this time around?
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When I first started mudding in '96 I got a full set of low level eq from various people on my first day.. then I knew I had to come back just so those gifts didn't go to waste! Been hooked ever since. I think one of my favorites was when Blaithe, Athelas and Xyd took me to do Faerie Goggles (I was like 6th level or some such, and just stood outside casting cure light to make myself feel useful, but had a blast) and gave me the Emerald Long Sword, and the next time the goggles themselves.
Jasix once gave me a pair of really cool gloves (can't remember what they were but they were expensive in WD) because he said "they match the rest of your eq rather nicely"... Glaetheal/ Morrinal/ Dorhain gave me tons of eq, and every few levels would upgrade it, always making sure I looked pretty. *flutter* He was awesome.
That's all I can really remember atm, but so many people were so generous all over the mud... it's a nice feeling knowing that we mudders can get along so well - for the most part
Alistra/Enistaeliea/Aryliea
Jasix once gave me a pair of really cool gloves (can't remember what they were but they were expensive in WD) because he said "they match the rest of your eq rather nicely"... Glaetheal/ Morrinal/ Dorhain gave me tons of eq, and every few levels would upgrade it, always making sure I looked pretty. *flutter* He was awesome.
That's all I can really remember atm, but so many people were so generous all over the mud... it's a nice feeling knowing that we mudders can get along so well - for the most part
Alistra/Enistaeliea/Aryliea
After losing all of my not-so-superb 18th level conjurer's set of eq whilst exploring UM (a somewhat bad idea for newbies), a paladin named Xanador helped me out with a bag of caster stuff, most notable of which was a suit of dwarven scalemail. It wasn't the greatest of eq, obviously, but to me it was shockingly cool. That paladin's kindness convinced me not to give up on this time consuming game that appeared to be harder than I had thought...
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-- Shevy
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After losing all my stuff down in troll marshes with my Elven Warrior (was having fun exploring the area between WD and BG) I dunno why but I didnt bother asking any for a CR. But I came back the next day, and made it back to WD from Leuth. And a Barbarian asked me what happened. I told him/her and said it happened the day before. And before I knew it, I got a load of decent exp, most of which was better then what I had. I also gave away any extra equipment I had to who ever needed it. So in turn it proves to me atleast, what goes around comes around
you know - ive given away my fair share of items, like most of us i am sure. as you get up in levels, you get more and more eq, that really you just don't need. but lets be honest, most of us are packrats in some form. we equip alts, we put it on storage, whatever. but i have really learned just how good it is for the game, and myself - to give things to a new player. i would group with an alt, and play with people of similar classes, usually looking for new players. i would let them see what i would do, and help them with advice, and etc. usually after one of these sessions - they know i am an experienced player, and invariably are grateful for the knowledge they have gained. when i feel that the player will stick around - i do whatever i can to give that player good eq. i mean, to me gith swords and dorf scale and stuff just ends up on storage, come on - how often do we use it.
but to that level 12 character - you have just given him a great treasure. tiny silver rings, shining mithril broadswords, these things are storage to us - but treasure to the new people. when you give this stuff away - it makes a statement about you as a player and a person, and those people will remember.
and one day, when you are in trouble with a CR, that little guy you helped who has gone on to achieve level 50 status etc - he will be there to help you.
as long as we are all generous with both our knowledge and treasures, then we are part of a world that will thrive and grow - and people will know why this is the best damn mud when they come here to play.
love all you guys
-kwirl/thamas/dazok
-ps - nothing wrong with hoarding, just try to remember that giving something away is a better feeling than selling a flaming stiletto to a newbie for 3 or 4 hundred plat. at least imho.
but to that level 12 character - you have just given him a great treasure. tiny silver rings, shining mithril broadswords, these things are storage to us - but treasure to the new people. when you give this stuff away - it makes a statement about you as a player and a person, and those people will remember.
and one day, when you are in trouble with a CR, that little guy you helped who has gone on to achieve level 50 status etc - he will be there to help you.
as long as we are all generous with both our knowledge and treasures, then we are part of a world that will thrive and grow - and people will know why this is the best damn mud when they come here to play.
love all you guys
-kwirl/thamas/dazok
-ps - nothing wrong with hoarding, just try to remember that giving something away is a better feeling than selling a flaming stiletto to a newbie for 3 or 4 hundred plat. at least imho.
Two situations come to mind.
The 1st was a long time ago when I was
playing an ogre. I had very newbie eq and
was waiting at the ferry to go north when along come kanthas and bratlii, she looked
at me and ask where was my weapon soldier?
I said well this is it and she promptly gave
me one of those +3 +3 axes.
The second was early on playing Thrandrieliad
my duergar cleric. I got asked to help kill
the gnome cleric in talenrock, well somehow
the thain was out or I ran into him but anyways I died to this thain and someone (attok) was dragging my corpse out of the zone and took a wrong turn and dragged it into the magic dark and silent room there.
So my corpse was lost along with all its eq.
Somehow trio found out about this and opened up his storage char and gave me enuf eq to keep going on Thanks
The 1st was a long time ago when I was
playing an ogre. I had very newbie eq and
was waiting at the ferry to go north when along come kanthas and bratlii, she looked
at me and ask where was my weapon soldier?
I said well this is it and she promptly gave
me one of those +3 +3 axes.
The second was early on playing Thrandrieliad
my duergar cleric. I got asked to help kill
the gnome cleric in talenrock, well somehow
the thain was out or I ran into him but anyways I died to this thain and someone (attok) was dragging my corpse out of the zone and took a wrong turn and dragged it into the magic dark and silent room there.
So my corpse was lost along with all its eq.
Somehow trio found out about this and opened up his storage char and gave me enuf eq to keep going on Thanks
Back on Toril the most valuable thing I was given was a jeweled cestus. Unfotunatly I was a mage so I couldent use it so I gave it to a friend. The most valuable item I got was a fly helm. Found it in some random bag I picked up somewhere. If you remember loosing a helm and visor with a griffon plume thats where it went, sorry. (I couldent use the helm either so I ended up using it to buy some other stuff, never did find the owner)
The nicest thing I got given to me was a Flammy. God I loved it. It first started out as a lone. But the months went on and after he saw how much it had grown on me he decided to let me have it. I can't remember who gave it to me though(how's that for appreciation . He was a dwarf cleric. I think it was maybe Braimer or Braithsomething. Bah, either way I remember doing a lot of stuff with him and always enjoying his company. Also, I should put an honarable mention in for Grimlak/Kaihen who really helped me aquire a lot of stuff(although I had to work for it, which is half the fun). Thanks Grim, you never provided a dull moment. Enough writing
ahhhhh shit I remember the name now, it was Branthur. how could I forget
Ulnd/Folrath
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ahhhhh shit I remember the name now, it was Branthur. how could I forget
Ulnd/Folrath
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Heh I remember getting a weapon waaaaaay back when I played Kasca...an elven warrior, those two words just don't go together heh, in the days of KOL if anyone can remember that far back, I received what I THINK was a golden scimitar from someone I can't remember It was the best weapon I had ever had and only better than a knife but at the time it was the nicest thing anyone had ever done for me!!
Kobei
Kobei
Serro was cleaning out his stor char one day, when I was a mere level 10 troll. He looks at me and snickers, and I got a little pissed about that. He starts fiddling around with items, putting crap in bps etc. Next thing I know he tells me to consent, so I do. He hands me a bp full of stuff, about 2 1/2 full sets of EQ. Most of the stuff was polished bone eq from Ghore, although he threw in a couple of decos, couple of tg's, and a whole slew of other stuff. I ended up giving a bunch of it back to him when he quit and then came back so he could have some eq to wear lol.
I think I probably gave away dozens of sets of eq over the years to unfortunate people. Psst, btw Kajib, you forget about that frosty I gave you a long time ago. :P *tease*
I remember giving away about 20 or 30 of those gleaming metal clubs from the Ghore foul smelling guards at one time, back when they rocked at 2d8 +3 +3 and were magic.
Eq, feh....hehe. I can't even remember half the stuff I ever had.
Yasmonkey
I think I probably gave away dozens of sets of eq over the years to unfortunate people. Psst, btw Kajib, you forget about that frosty I gave you a long time ago. :P *tease*
I remember giving away about 20 or 30 of those gleaming metal clubs from the Ghore foul smelling guards at one time, back when they rocked at 2d8 +3 +3 and were magic.
Eq, feh....hehe. I can't even remember half the stuff I ever had.
Yasmonkey
I got a tiny golden earring and a Broadsword of Dancing Shadows, and an adamantite brigandine armor when I was just a small ogre... Thank you, Plut, Zloebis, Kathele, Roktar! I hope you will come back here once again! BTW, was this broadsword a cool one? I liked its proc , it was very pretty. I'll try to get it as soon as Toril opens... and when I'll got high level.
Ruagh, who is awaiting for the MUD to open.
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Ruagh, who is awaiting for the MUD to open.
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Two people stand out in my memory related to this.
The first is the item that meant the most to me as Altheria - my bard.
I was given a Minotaur Lyre by Khazid. He spent many hours and many deaths trudging through the maze trying to kill the Minotaur to get this gift for me. I had other instruments but consistently played that lyre because of the value it held for me.
The second item was significant to Fayren - my druid.
It was towards the end of Sojourn 2 and I have finally gotten level 46. Yarith was logged on and realized that I had leveled. He gave me his Orb and helped me find the quest mob so that I could get MoonWell.
Many thanks to both of them.
The first is the item that meant the most to me as Altheria - my bard.
I was given a Minotaur Lyre by Khazid. He spent many hours and many deaths trudging through the maze trying to kill the Minotaur to get this gift for me. I had other instruments but consistently played that lyre because of the value it held for me.
The second item was significant to Fayren - my druid.
It was towards the end of Sojourn 2 and I have finally gotten level 46. Yarith was logged on and realized that I had leveled. He gave me his Orb and helped me find the quest mob so that I could get MoonWell.
Many thanks to both of them.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Taer/Ssil:
This is off subject, but do you (or anyone) know if Gled is gonna play this time around?</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I do not know. I've been in contact with a few other "old school" evils ("old school" meaning pre-squids, pre-snakes and pre-drow) but I haven't heard from Gled in quite a long time. he used to pop onto S2 occassionally from what I remember, so maybe he'll pop in again.
--D2
This is off subject, but do you (or anyone) know if Gled is gonna play this time around?</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I do not know. I've been in contact with a few other "old school" evils ("old school" meaning pre-squids, pre-snakes and pre-drow) but I haven't heard from Gled in quite a long time. he used to pop onto S2 occassionally from what I remember, so maybe he'll pop in again.
--D2
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