I heard some people talking about why twilight should be a 1handed sword. At first, I thought nawwwww, its always been a 2her. After chatting I realized that it might not be that far of a stretch. I would assume that most thing the Black Longsword of Destruction is the optimal sword of choice, non artifact, that is. However, the change in code, with shieldblock/no room silence anymore, and the need of rogues for melee damage, has changed the game. For an item that should be the best in the game, shouldn't it better fit how the tanks are today? I had twilight each of last couple wipes and i tanked with them, but now i cant.
I'm asking for views for/against it because I have a lil biased opinion of course. I want you to also know id be open to downgrading it to 4/4 or something like that....
Turgiepoo
twilight change?
Elf Ranger.
6 hits per round.
35 damroll.
Twilight proc.
I think it needs to stay 2 handed. All the best proc weapons are two handed.. it gives warriors a reason NOT to use a shield. Plus, two handed weapons give (Anti-)Paladins an advantage in damage over the one-handed classes.
I see nothing wrong in giving warriors an incentive to not use a shield
- Ragorn
6 hits per round.
35 damroll.
Twilight proc.
I think it needs to stay 2 handed. All the best proc weapons are two handed.. it gives warriors a reason NOT to use a shield. Plus, two handed weapons give (Anti-)Paladins an advantage in damage over the one-handed classes.
I see nothing wrong in giving warriors an incentive to not use a shield
- Ragorn
I think twilight is warrior/anti-paladin only so rangers using the weapon isn't an issue. I think the whole issue behind the weapon is that warriors tank like rangers when they wield one of these weapons. They can't shieldpunch with it either so twilight becomes a pretty useless weapon. Its ok for anti-paladins i guess, but unholy avenger is better so twilight, so eventually twilight goes back on the storage character.
Originally I was vouching for Twilight being 1h when we first got it. I was a little hasty as to get my point through with very valid points which some god agrees and some did not. I had an extensive talk with Gargauth eventually he was able to convince me that Twilight should stay 2h backed up with valid points. Whether Twilight 1h or 2h is just as good of a weapon if used right.
Nah.
I disagree with Twilight being 1handed, unless it was modified to fit that realm (dice no longer 8d4, proc toned down, etc).
Ebony Bladed Longswords aren't too shabby, and there are tons of weapons out there to choose from. If I was a warrior, I would want more shields to choose from than weapons.
The class is very much based around the shield, not the sword. (bash, shieldblock, shieldpunch)
Dornax
Jurdex
I disagree with Twilight being 1handed, unless it was modified to fit that realm (dice no longer 8d4, proc toned down, etc).
Ebony Bladed Longswords aren't too shabby, and there are tons of weapons out there to choose from. If I was a warrior, I would want more shields to choose from than weapons.
The class is very much based around the shield, not the sword. (bash, shieldblock, shieldpunch)
Dornax
Jurdex
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Ok, here's my 1 cent, since I am now a dorf warrior instead of my monk of prior glory. I think twilight should remain a 2-handed weapon. I personally like having variety. I think if every warrior gets the same 1 handed weapon and the same shield the game becomes drab. I know that eventually every ranger will be wielding a windsong, or close to it. Also, all the paladins will have holy avenger. I personally feel that a warrior only weapon quest should be implemented as they are the only hitter class that doesn't have a quest weapon specific to their class. *Rogue daggers I suppose can be used by other classes but are primarily not*. I think if a 1-handed warrior only quest weapon were added it would make the game more exciting and diverse. But hey, I was a fisticuff monk so I probably don't know much.
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